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Discussion forum for Competitive Obedience. You can either raise a new topic by clicking the 'Post a new thread' link, or reply to the topic by clicking 'Add comments to above thread'. Les Perry is the moderator for the forum.

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Steve white   (Steve white) 30/11/2020 8:40:20

Hi everyone just i quick update first on my lovely wife liz as you all know she is in a nursing home in Monmouth what am i saying of course you know she is in a home you all new before me I was having a little sleep at the time anyway the home say she is doing well as I have not been aloud to see her since the beginning of September they say she keeps them on there toes as she won't sit down she is always on the go i have not had a conversation with liz she will look at you ut won't talk may
be one day well it comes to me now first i would like to thank everyone who sent good wishes it ment so much to me when I came around i am getting on the mend its going to take a long time i stii get out of breath if I go a bit to quick my walking is coming along well my dancing is going to take a bit longer can only dance to one track then need a sit down but it will come and I am starting back to work part-time starting at 12 noon tomorrow so looking forward to that mikki has won over everyone's heart and just loving the attention i have been told I have to rent her out for hoildays she has ha


Sorry about that tried to say she has had 3 holidays this year so thats about it so thank-you all again stay safe I will come to a few shows next year  (Steve white) 30/11/2020 8:44:2

thinking of you and Liz .. what an amazing recovery you have had ... you have an amazing attitude from what i've read and seen about you .. take care  (puppies) 30/11/2020 11:37:28

Reedyford dtc Show March 2021  (Kymza) 25/11/2020 12:26:55

Reedyford dtc Show on 6th March 2021
will NOT be going ahead as we cant see anything being remotely like normal by then,

Along with our area having one of the highest infection rates in the country and the possibility of very limited travel in and out of the area, committee members shielding along with it being an indoor venue so numbers into the venue would have a cap put on them also trying to get a sufficient amount of judges and stewards to name but a few reasons .

We just thought as a club it was best to cancel now than go back into tier 3 measures a week before the show and have to cancel just before show day.
disappointing as it is BUT I have secured our venue Croft Top Equestrian Centre for Saturday the 5th of March 2022.



Obedience at Crufts 2021  (ObedienceUK) 24/11/2020 16:5:15

The Kennel Club can confirm that the Inter Regional Rally Competition is expected to go ahead on Thursday 15 July at Crufts 2021 and the Inter Regional Obedience Competition is expected to go ahead on Friday 16 July.

Unfortunately, as there has been no qualifiers the Obedience Championship will not take place at Crufts 2021. Similarly as there has only been one qualifier the Obreedience finals will also not take place at Crufts 2021. Those teams who competed at an obreedience heat in 2020, and gained points will have their points carried over for Crufts 2022.



CRUFTS TO GO AHEAD, NEW DATE ANNOUNCED  (ObedienceUK) 18/11/2020 19:52:17

KC Press Release:

The Kennel Club has announced today that Crufts 2021 will take place next year on the new dates of 15 -18 July at the NEC Birmingham.

Crufts, which will be celebrating its 130th anniversary in 2021, was due to take place on 11 14 March 2021, but with much of the UK in a second lockdown and events and exhibitions still not being able to be held it was looking very unlikely that Crufts in March was a foreseeable option.

Following lengthy discussions over the last few months on how it would be possible to hold Crufts next year, it has been agreed to move the show to July when hopefully it is more viable that the show can take place and that the situation with Covid-19 allows for it to happen. Changes to the show will be implemented to ensure more space is available for our exhibitors and visitors.

Said Vanessa McAlpine, Show Manager: We are absolutely delighted to be able to look forward to a special summer Crufts Dog Show taking place next year and are thankful to the NEC for being flexible in finding us an alternative date and of course all our sponsors, judges, exhibitors and trade stands for their continued support. The Kennel Club will be working with the dog clubs and societies who already have shows planned for these dates to offer them assistance and other options for their events.

There is optimism in the events industry as to the likelihood of summer events taking place with the new Crufts dates falling in a fortnight when hopefully some of our great British summer sporting events will also be returning. We know there are going to be many challenges and will need to remain adaptable to how the show will look as our priority is to not only the dogs, but our exhibitors and visitors whose welfare will always be at the forefront. We will continue to review the situation over the coming months and will adapt our plans as appropriate, however we are very excited to be able to plan for Crufts in the summer to celebrate our wonderful dogs and to give our dog loving community something to look forward to next year.

The Kennel Club hopes to be able to provide further information on how the show will look, including qualifications soon and will keep its website updated as it evolves www.crufts.org.uk.

It is hoped that Crufts 2022 will take place as normal on 10 13 March 2022.



Entries close 15th November...  (Rhia) 9/11/2020 16:46:34

Last chance for any amendments to your entries for Downlands Obedience Group show, rescheduled to 27th December - entries now close Sunday 15th November.

All entries have been carried over, but I do have a small waiting list for Novice and A, so if you would like to cancel your entry due to the change of date, please get in touch with me - I will take people off the waiting list to replace you in the order the entries were received, which is why I need to manage this myself...

Downlandsobediencegroup@gmail.com


Edit - this should read 'all entries have been carried over, where requested, on the online entry site' - you are still free to amend if/as necessary  (Rhia) 10/11/2020 9:8:19

Just one space left in Novice now!  (Rhia) 11/11/2020 9:31:16

Update on D.O.G. show 2020  (Rhia) 2/11/2020 10:22:27

So, I am waiting for the KC response to changing the date from 15th November to 27th December, but in the meantime, I am assuming that it will be acceptable to them...

If anyone is now NOT able to attend due to the change of date, then please can I ask that you email me (downlandsobediencegroup@gmail.com).

Likewise, if anyone missed the original closing date, and wants to enter, can you also email me - classes are full, so additional entries will need to be carefully managed via a waiting list now, only being freed up when others drop out.

I will set the revised closing date as Sunday 15th November - so if anyone hasn't been in touch to cancel their entry by that date, then it will be assumed that you are still entered.


Rhia, you are doing an amazing amount of work on this, trying to enable us to do what we love, so Thanks.  (doghouse) 3/11/2020 4:10:35

Good luck , hope it works out OK after all your hard work .X
  (dingdongcharlie) 3/11/2020 6:22:29

KC have agreed to the change of date...  (Rhia) 4/11/2020 13:33:30

Draw - Downlands Obedience Group  (ObedienceUK) 28/10/2020 19:30:55

I've just uploaded the running order and information sheet for the Downlands Obedience Group show. Thanks to Rhia Mulrenan.


Sorry all - show cancelled due to today's announcement   (Rhia) 31/10/2020 18:42:42

Update...have checked with the venue and we have provisionally rescheduled to Sunday 27th December

As this is (just) within 6 weeks of the original date, I believe that all entries can simply just be carried forwards, but I will try to clarify this with the Kennel Club next week (wish me luck!!)

If anyone already entered cannot make this new date, please let me know via downlandsobediencegroup@gmail.com

Thanks all!  (Rhia) 31/10/2020 22:17:20

Well done Rhia such a lot of work having to set up training and shows now and then having to reschedule  (BarbShort) 1/11/2020 5:57:4

Downlands Obedience Group show  (Rhia) 28/10/2020 17:15:32

Emails (and post) are on their way...I have also sent the running orders to Les to post on this site.

Instructions

You MUST read and understand the instructions before you arrive as this is essential for your and other people's safety.

Please note that this is the first Kennel Club Licensed Obedience Show since UK lockdown. It is VITAL that everyone attending abides by the rules, in order to satisfy the local authority, The Kennel Club, and the insurers of the event. If you feel that you cannot abide by the rules, then please do not attend. This is a test event, with the aim being to hold further similar shows after Christmas this winter, so the success (or otherwise) will be monitored.
If you are feeling in any way unwell, do not come to the show. If within 14 days of the show you become ill and or are tested positive for Covid-19, please contact the show secretary so that people you came in contact with can be informed.
It is your own responsibility to check for the latest government updates before attending the show and to stay safe while at the venue.

Your Group and Show Etiquette

Please observe social distancing guidelines at all times, including the collecting areas, exercise area and car park. Bring and use your own hand sanitiser as appropriate. Feel free to wear a face covering at any time you wish. Do not loiter too long at any particular point so that you block access for others. Please respect other peoples' safety margins and move further away if asked to do so.
There will be other groups and helpers on site at the same time as you; please avoid approaching these individuals unless necessary and keep social interactions to a minimum.
Follow all instructions given to you by judges or other helpers. Note that the judge and steward are not part of your group so follow their instructions but keep your distance.
Try to stay with the rest of your group as much as possible you are all responsible for making sure that nobody feels left out from the rest of the group.
Before entering the ring, leave any toys/treats/leads and other possessions somewhere you can retrieve them without interfering with the next competitor. Do not pick up anyone else's items.
Please aim to take all of your waste home with you, including dog waste (in order to reduce cross contamination).

Your email will contain :

Cohorts/Running Orders
Show Information
Ring layout
Venue layout

Note that these are all also available online via https://obedienceshowsonline.co.uk/

Despite all of these rules, I really hope that you are able to have an enjoyable time at the show, and I wish you the best of luck for your rounds!

Please feel free to provide any constructive and polite criticism after the event.Emails are on their way...

Instructions

You MUST read and understand the instructions before you arrive as this is essential for your and other people's safety.

Please note that this is the first Kennel Club Licensed Obedience Show since UK lockdown. It is VITAL that everyone attending abides by the rules, in order to satisfy the local authority, The Kennel Club, and the insurers of the event. If you feel that you cannot abide by the rules, then please do not attend. This is a test event, with the aim being to hold further similar shows after Christmas this winter, so the success (or otherwise) will be monitored.
If you are feeling in any way unwell, do not come to the show. If within 14 days of the show you become ill and or are tested positive for Covid-19, please contact the show secretary so that people you came in contact with can be informed.
It is your own responsibility to check for the latest government updates before attending the show and to stay safe while at the venue.

Your Group and Show Etiquette

Please observe social distancing guidelines at all times, including the collecting areas, exercise area and car park. Bring and use your own hand sanitiser as appropriate. Feel free to wear a face covering at any time you wish. Do not loiter too long at any particular point so that you block access for others. Please respect other peoples' safety margins and move further away if asked to do so.
There will be other groups and helpers on site at the same time as you; please avoid approaching these individuals unless necessary and keep social interactions to a minimum.
Follow all instructions given to you by judges or other helpers. Note that the judge and steward are not part of your group so follow their instructions but keep your distance.
Try to stay with the rest of your group as much as possible you are all responsible for making sure that nobody feels left out from the rest of the group.
Before entering the ring, leave any toys/treats/leads and other possessions somewhere you can retrieve them without interfering with the next competitor. Do not pick up anyone else's items.
Please aim to take all of your waste home with you, including dog waste (in order to reduce cross contamination).

Your email will contain :

Cohorts/Running Orders
Show Information
Ring layout
Venue layout

Note that these are all also available online via https://obedienceshowsonline.co.uk/

Despite all of these rules, I really hope that you are able to have an enjoyable time at the show, and I wish you the best of luck for your rounds!

Please feel free to provide any constructive and polite criticism after the event.



Calling all Beginner (or lower) handlers!  (Rhia) 22/10/2020 7:38:15

Downlands Obedience Group capped open show on Sunday 15th November.

There are still some spaces left in the Beginner class - how about entering to see "what you've got", so you know what to work on over the winter, just in case things are more normal next year...?

The judge has no problems with training rounds, so a great opportunity to 'dip your toe in the water'!

Schedule is on this site - it's long, but don't be daunted



Contacting the Kennel Club  (breeze) 21/10/2020 11:9:35

Good Afternoon Everyone
Ive been in touch with the Kennel Club Office Staff and they are doing their best to get through the backlog of emails and deal with the content within them. Over the last few months, the SASS team alone has had to deal with around 3000 licenced events, quite a number who tried to rearrange and then had to cancel their events. This has now been complicated by the launch of the new computer system which has slowed down progress as staff get accustomed to using it and also while some services are gradually brought on line.
Thus, I ask that you remain patient. The staff are working as quickly as they can to get back on track but it will not be helped if you send multiple emails about the same subject.
Also, I request that you hold back making contact if you can on matters that are not urgent such as show dates and licences for next year.
Your cooperation will go a long way to helping everyone do their job without the added pressures the current volume of correspondence is creating.



Downlands Capped show - Sunday 15/11/2020  (Rhia) 17/10/2020 16:28:11

Entries close NEXT Sunday - 25th October!

Come on all you Beginner competitors - there are still plenty of spaces left in this class at the moment...I need your entries if this class is going to continue to be scheduled in any future shows for Jan/Feb/Mar/Apr 2021!


There are still a couple of places left in A as well


Well, if the beginners are not keen, maybe we can have a Class B?  (quilters1) 19/10/2020 11:48:55

Class 'A' is now full, so just Beginner spaces left!  (Rhia) 21/10/2020 10:32:4

Midlands Inter Regional Obedience Team Crufts 2021  (LouJackson) 18/10/2020 12:24:37

With regards to the applications for a place in the Midlands Team, we will now take applications up to Christmas as the try out date is now in January.
Lou. x



Just Tilly 17.9.04 - 1.10.20  (Just Tilly) 2/10/2020 6:47:10

Sorry about the above. I will try again.
Tilly was P.T.S yesterday she had a stroke that was no coming back from. As I wanted her put to sleep at home (she was terrified of the vets) I contacted a vets called dignipets they specialise in end of life care for animals and come to your home. So it was peaceful at the end.
Tilly touched so many people's lives even the postmen came over to say hello. All who knew her loved her and she loved everyone especially if treats were involved.
The light has gone out of my life. Sleep peacefully my special girl.
Once again sorry about the first posting.i just opened an envelope the vet left and it contained the clippings from where she shaved her leg. I just lost it.

Chris


I am so sad to hear this Chris. She was absolutely gorgeous, and she and Izzy did have fun together. Sending you huge hugs and kisses

Love Jacqui xx
  (Wizzpop) 11/10/2020 17:12:46

So sorry to see that you have lost your special girl. Run free Tilly 🌈  (shydedogs@aol.com) 11/10/2020 17:49:36

Very sorry to hear this news Chris. Run free Tilly.  (dawncox76) 12/10/2020 9:26:30

So sorry, Chris. Run free Tilly. xx  (LouJackson) 18/10/2020 12:19:40

New schedule - Downlands Obedience Group  (ObedienceUK) 7/10/2020 5:23:24

I've just uploaded the schedule for Downlands Obedience Group, Capped Open, on 15th November 2020. Thanks to Rhia Mulrenan.


Thanks Les!

I had done a post on here, but it must have got lost in the server switchover.

Just to make everyone aware that I am still waiting for the KC to get round to issuing the licence for this event, but had to open up entries otherwise I'd run out of time...

I will update when they finally respond, but thought it only fair to let everyone know.

For info - 30 places in novice gone already...!

PLEASE READ THE SCHEDULE IN FULL, as this is a different (new?) normal   (Rhia) 7/10/2020 17:8:12

What are the A stays at this show? Down out of sight or in sight?   (dingdongcharlie) 10/10/2020 9:40:7

Current kc rules, so out of sight   (Rhia) 10/10/2020 17:14:37

So want to support you in this venture, but at 2.5hr drive, its just too far for me unfortunately. I really hope it all goes well - hats off to you. xx
  (dawncox76) 12/10/2020 9:28:49

NOVICE IS NOW FULL!!!

5 spaces left in 'A'

If you have recently posted an entry to me, and are not sure if you have got in, please drop me an email downlandsobediencegroup@gmail.com  (Rhia) 13/10/2020 7:41:4

KC have today taken payment for the licence!  (Rhia) 16/10/2020 14:22:33

Is there any news on out of sight stays?  (dingdongcharlie) 13/10/2020 13:51:36

Is there anyone "in the know" who can update us on if and when out of sight stays are being abolished? I'm sure there are others like me who haven't trained young dogs to do stays out of sight as we thought they were going, but it seems that if we'd had any shows this year, the out of sight stays would still have been a requirement. Would love an update and hope they're gone by next season. Sharon



Choxxstart Yeah Butt No Butt - Button RIP  (Choxxstart) 11/10/2020 23:5:39

We had to let our girl go to Rainbow Bridge today. (Sunday) She was 15.5 years young right until the end. She was my special dog of a lifetime, 'C' only, Rally 6 Exc, Heel-work to Music, a PAT dog in both mum and dad's care homes and by my side when they both passed. She successfully represented the Northern Team at Crufts. She entertained the crowds in 'Annie' for 3 months at West Yorkshire Playhouse and a week at Bradford Girls Grammer School. She was adored and loved by many. What a hole she has left in our hearts! We have her offspring to continue our journey! Janice & Roly Jackson


So sorry to hear your sad news. She had a full life.
Chris  (Just Tilly) 12/10/2020 3:32:10

So sorry Janice. Such a lot of memories to come. I remember her very fondly. Thinking of you both. xxx  (silver) 12/10/2020 6:4:36

Jean Andrew funeral arrangements   (CROSSPLATTS) 7/10/2020 18:42:44

JEAN ANDREW

Passed away peacefully on 30 September 2020 after a long illness. Sadly missed by her partner Graham, and her many friends.

Funeral Details:

Wednesday 14 October 2020.

Service at St James' Church, Lulworth Road, Birkdale, Southport at 1pm, followed by burial at Duke Street Cemetery, approximately 2pm.

Sadly, due to current government restrictions on numbers, attendance strictly by invitation only

Thank you everyone for your lovely messages of support, which have been a joy to read. Although Jean has not been able to compete for some time now, I know she took great pleasure in attending and meeting you all at shows until these had to be suspended due to the Covid-19 crisis. I am deeply sorry that I cannot issue an open invitation to you all to attend Jean's funeral - I am sure we could have packed out the church. Please spare a thought and a prayer for Jean. As one highly respected member of the Obedience community once said about Jean: She loved her dogs, and her dogs loved her.
Kindest Regards, Graham Senior.


Dear Graham,
So sorry I can't be at Jean's funeral.
My most sincere condolences to you and sympathy for your great loss.
I knew Jean for a very long time and we always had similar dogs, all well loved.
She was very brave and it was wonderful to see you both at shows.
I will be thinking of you extra specially on the 14th.
With lots of love and sadness.

Christine xxx  (silver) 8/10/2020 12:23:43

Dearest Graham, I send you my condolences & I will miss seeing you both around the shows. Jean was a special person, and I have many fond memories of our 'natters'! You will be in our thoughts on the 14th and take care of yourself and stay safe. Lots of love, Janice & the Beardies.  (Choxxstart) 11/10/2020 22:48:26

Wirral Shows 2021  (dellkos) 7/10/2020 11:15:25



As you may be aware, our show dates have changed (for next year only). Unfortunately, some of our judges are unable to judge due to change of dates so We have the following vacancies for next year as follows:
09/07/2021 (championship show) Friday
2 Class C, 1 Class A, 2 Novices, 1 Pre-Beginner, Chief Steward
10/07/2021 (Open Show) Saturday
1 Class C, 1 Class B, 1 Class A,1 Novice, 1 Pre-Beginner, Introductory.
I am sure you dont want us to cancel the shows due to lack of Judges. Please offer your help . if we do not get judges we will approach the Kennel club, and advise them we will only hold the two Tickets.
We are aware of the uncertainty surrounding shows but we are prepared to hold the show but we do need people to Judge. Please either contact myself or Kathy Mangan (Details of contacts on last years schedule) or use Messenger.
Thanks
Nicki Fildes-Moss
Show secretary W.A.T.S.


Bump  (dellkos) 11/10/2020 16:24:7

Just Tilly 17.9.04 - 1.10.20  (Just Tilly) 2/10/2020 6:20:18

Tilly was P.T.S yesterday she had a stroke that was no coming back from. As I wanted her put to sleep at homcontacted a vets called dignipets they specialise in end of life care for a imals



Sad news, Jean Andrew  (CROSSPLATTS) 1/10/2020 13:30:46

I received a call from Graham today letting me know that Jean had sadly passed away peacefully yesterday,
Although Jean hadnt been able to compete these last few years it was always lovely to see Graham bringing her to the shows to see the many friends she had.
She loved seeing the dogs they gave her such great pleasure.
Jean will be missed and remembered fondly.



Happy Birthday Tilly  (Just Tilly) 17/9/2020 7:58:35

Tilly is 16 today. Well I say today but I am not really sure. When I picked her up on 5th Nov 2004 they said she was 7 weeks old. So I counted back 7 weeks and came up with 17th Sept as this is my youngest nephew's birthday I thought that will do. She has been struggling to walk on hard surfaces so I invested in a doggie pushchair. It has given her a new lease of life. We can now go some of our old haunts and have met with some old friends. She can still remember who has the TREATS! She has one or two health problems but they are not bothering her at the moment luckily.

Chris


Only just caught up with this Chris, belated happy birthday to your special little girl

Sheilagh  (shydedogs@aol.com) 27/9/2020 16:16:33

Happy (belated)birthday Tilly. How wonderful to hear that Tilly is still enjoying life so much! Just fabulous!   (LouiseH) 29/9/2020 20:35:17

Home offered  (suechilds) 27/9/2020 19:9:17

Hi, I have a relative of mine who wants to offer a dog a forever home. Really wants a Scruffy kind of dog or longish coat, if you know of someone that has a dog looking for a home, please contact me, preferably in West Midlands area.



Sad news. Beath Sergeant   (puppies) 8/9/2020 8:59:1


I was so sorry to hear that Beath Sergeant had passed away

She was certainly someone who gave a huge amount of her time to obedience over many years. From memory she was on the Committee or acted as Secretary/Treasurer at many clubs including Newmarket, West Suffolk, Deben Valley, Eastern Counties Shetland Sheepdog Club and East Anglian Working Trials Club. She was Head Trainer at Newmarket for many years and helped so many people especially at their start of their obedience journey.

She trained many dogs over the years in obedience and working trials including Miniature Poodles, Boxer, Beardies, a Goldie, Shelties and more recently she had Border Collies, enjoying her training days with Kim Innes. Beath had so many stories of obedience over the years and could have a wicked sense of humour.

Beath always considered being asked to judge a great honour and always looked very smart when judging. In latter years, despite not working a dog, she was often found helping all day in the stay ring. She was certainly someone who put far more into the sport than she ever took out.

My thoughts are with her devoted Sister Kay and Beaths friends at this very sad time

Bernice


That is very sad news. What a character Beath was. I admired the way she kept up with the obedience training, never letting her grand age get in the way of doing something she loved. Sending love to Kay and other friends and family. Love from Sharon   (dingdongcharlie) 9/9/2020 16:29:1

I spent many days in the stay rings with Beath , & always enjoyed chatting with her , she will be sadly missed when the shows start again , RIP Beath  (dingdongcharlie) 11/9/2020 10:33:53

SAD NEWS WALLIS FABLES LADY  (Bettsy Chris) 10/9/2020 14:56:53

Just to let my obedience friends who aren't on Facebook that Wallis passed away on 9 Sept 2020. She was my soul mate. I enjoyed the shows with her.



Midlands Inter Regional Obedience Team Crufts 2021  (LouJackson) 7/9/2020 20:30:17

MIDLANDS INTER REGIONAL OBEDIENCE TEAM
CRUFTS 2021
In these unprecedented times our sport has suffered greatly but we are ever hopeful that Crufts 2021 will go ahead in some form. With that in mind we are inviting applicants for our Midlands team, bearing in mind that the selection process will be slightly different this year.
Whilst we realise that most of you will have no show results to offer, I will still be asking for application forms to be submitted and a selection day will still be held on Sunday 29th November at Tomlinsons Canine Centre, Markfield, Leics. We will be allocating time slots for each applicant and these will have to be strictly adhered to. Only one buddy per applicant and Im afraid we wont be able to allow spectators or our usual fundraising this year. Entry will be at own risk and it must be remembered that Crufts 2021 may still be cancelled, even at a very late date, such are these very uncertain times. We can only hope that it may continue in some form or other.
We are confident that we can achieve this safely with your help and wouldnt it be great to do something doggy again?!!
Keep safe, Lou, Lyn and Steve.


The Application Form is on the schedules page against the selection day date.  (ObedienceUK) 9/9/2020 9:35:47

BCOS show at Emneth on 13th September CANCELLED  (ObedienceUK) 3/9/2020 0:18:49

It is with a heavy heart and regret that we have to announce that our forthcoming BCOS show at Emneth on 13th September 2020 will have to be cancelled.
On August 23rd 2020 the government announced changes that would be implemented on August 28th 2020 about gatherings larger than 30.
We have spent many hours trying to find ways of making the show work within the government guidelines but alas we cannot find a solution.
June Le Fevre
will be sending out emails to all of you that have entered, by the end of play on Friday 4th September 2020. So please check your emails.
We, the BCOS Team would like to thank each and everyone of you for your continuing support and understanding in these difficult times.
We just wish we could have given you all a fab day out with your fab dogs doing the sport we love.
We hope that our future shows will go ahead (we will keep monitoring the government guidelines), but in the meantime, keep well and stay safe everyone xx

Anita Neal



Operational plan for the resumption of obedience  (ObedienceUK) 17/8/2020 17:42:43

Shared from Kennel Club Activities website:

Societies are required to consider Government advice, including DEFRA, in place at the time when planning an event. It is also worth noting that current advice is different for different parts of the United Kingdom and this needs to be taken into account when planning the event both in relation to the venue and expected participants.

Updated 11/08/2020

Risk assessment
A copy of how to layout your obedience risk assessment can be found here.

Obedience regulations temporarily suspended / amended until 1 July 2021
Societies are advised to hold smaller shows where possible to allow more space for social distancing and space around rings. Classes could be planned for either a morning or afternoon, and be advised in the schedule so that competitors can manage their arrival and departure.

All special arrangements put in place in relation to the regulations listed below must be clearly stated in the schedule.

Regulations have been amended / altered to facilitate smaller shows as follows:

Licences Regulation G.7

Societies may apply for any type of licence up to 6 weeks prior to the show date. (The required date may not be available if another Championship society already has that date.)

Awards Regulation G19

Printed award cards need not be given but class results can be sent out after the show to all competitors to be retained as evidence

Catalogue Regulation G26

Electronic version only to be shared with judges and other officials. Any Kennel Club returns to be sent electronically

A Complete set of results to be published as a record of the dogs achievements instead of prize cards.

Running orders Regulation G29.f

Societies will decide whether classes will have a pre-drawn full running order or one set up on the day, either as a full running order or time slots as handlers book in. In each case the order of working must be adhered to with handlers available to compete when required.

Timed stays Regulation G29.g

Stay times will remain as per regulations but timed stays and the need for a separate ring may be suspended if the show society wishes. Classes may instead have stays in groups in the working ring, for example after every 10/12 dogs have been judged, those dogs will then do their stays, or at the end of class with only those with a viable score. Judge and Ring Steward will manage the stays when they take place in the working ring.

Number of entrants / classes

Regulation G(A)

It is suggested that not all classes are scheduled but that events are restricted to either the lower classes (e.g. Introductory to A) or higher (e.g. Novice to C).

Regulation G(A)3

It is recommended to restrict any dog to enter no more than two classes.

Capped Classes Regulation G(A)13

Societies are advised to consider the use of capped classes.

Competing Regulation G34.f scent and Equipment Regulation G(C)2.d

Scent test for Class A, B & C can take place as part of the ring work in a designated area of the ring set aside for this.

Tests Regulation G(C)4.i.(3) and Regulations G(C)4.i.(4)

Class A and Class B scent will be as detailed in the Regulations

Class C Scent will be the handlers scent, there will be 2 decoy cloths, both from the same decoy steward.

All cloths will placed in a box and not handled for at least 48 hours before the event.

The judge will place the cloth in the pattern in Class B & Class C.

The Ring steward may then act as decoy steward.

Version suitable for printing


Has anyone actually read the risk assessment? You are not allowed to look at the stay sheets until 48hrs after the show has finished? Thats going to be fun working out the winner. Do we need to bag each individual retrieve article and scent cloth?
Heather  (Wispasmum) 18/8/2020 11:48:38

Re stay sheets. Would we need to be called back after 48 hours if there's a run-off due to a minor stay break?   (dingdongcharlie) 18/8/2020 13:57:59

Who typed the risk assessment? Have they heard of spellcheck?   (dingdongcharlie) 19/8/2020 14:28:48

Lots of indoor shows will not have the room for 3m around all ring sides. Winter shows held in equestrian centres will find that hard to do.  (Whoopie) 1/9/2020 17:44:38

Do we need to worry about spell check at these awful times 🤔  (lmc) 2/9/2020 21:11:41

Jin''N''Tomic - Sad Announcement  (K9MadLady) 19/8/2020 13:19:47

Most Obedience friends will already know but those not on FB may not be aware
JIN'N'TONIC 30-08-2014 to 10-08-20220

My beautiful boy Jinty has gone to Rainbow Bridge on Monday, 10th August 2020
His body went but his soul will always be with me.
Thanks for all your support messages form everyone while we were battling an unknown enemy.

He had been under the care of The Willows Veterinary Referral Centre Solihull over the last 5 weeks, where we received the best care anyone could have asked for.
We had seen some improvement over the last couple of weeks but then he took a turn for the worse on Sunday evening and Monday morning his eyes gave me the permission to do the hardest thing for me but kindest one for him.
Dog people will understand what I mean.

I was with my soul mate to help him over Rainbow Bridge. He was my shadow and best friend for far too short a time but will always be by my side and in my heart. His memory will live on and I hope, I gave him the best life I could have done. He certainly did give me the best 5 years and 10 months I could have wished for. Not even mentioning his career in Obedience, where he made it to C only at the end of last year. I loved his showmanship in the Crufts and Discover Dogs Gold Good Citizens Team for two years, where he soaked up the atmosphere of the small ring but really enjoyed his times in the main arena. Thanks to Jen Wyatt and Heidi Lawrence and all support team memebers for giving us the opportunity to shine....
Sleep tight my little giant of a Welshman.


Annegret I am so sorry to hear your sad news.
Chris  (Just Tilly) 20/8/2020 7:25:13

Really sad news, so sorry x  (Wizzpop) 27/8/2020 13:5:27

How sad Im so very sorry for your loss 💔  (lmc) 2/9/2020 21:8:26

Culverstone Capped February 2021 Show Cancelled  (ObedienceUK) 1/9/2020 19:24:57

From Facebook: Culverstone D.T.C are sad to have to announce that we have had to make the decision to cancel our February Capped show. Unfortunately even with how things are now they would have to change dramatically to make it safe to hold the show the way the venue set up. Even holding classes in blocks of x amount of competitors at a time wouldn't let us be sure we would cover our costs. We will hopefully see you all back at our 2-Day show next July. Jo Newman


understand, see you then.  (doghouse) 1/9/2020 20:21:30

Surrey relinquish Ticket, but plan Open next year  (ObedienceUK) 27/8/2020 16:1:33

Just wanted to let the community know that although we at Surrey DTS Obedience section have decided to relinquish our Ticket , we plan to hold an Open ( possibly Capped) show in June next year.
We are a small club these days and feel that our efforts are best channeled towards encouraging people into Obedience.
Everyone will appreciate the work that goes into holding any show, never mind a Championship one!
Our committee would like to thank everyone who has previously entered and supported our show, and especially those who have sweated and stressed over the organisation of the show - Jane Wood, Juliette Bloomfield,Karen Branthwaite, and that fantastic admin lady Rebecca Coleman.
Good luck to whoever takes on the Ticket in the future , and we hope people will still support our show in its new form.
Thanks
Caroline Heale
Secretary



Lancashire BCOS show CANCELLED  (ObedienceUK) 27/8/2020 15:24:45

It is with regret the decision has been made to cancel the Lancashire BCOS show due to be held 31st October. We have waited as long as possible but feel we will not have sufficient time to put a show together with the constantly changing advice and guidelines. We would like to thank those who had offered to judge and hopefully will be back next year.
Christine and Henri xx



Cataract Surgery  (jodyas) 20/8/2020 15:48:11

Our 9 year old German shepherd has been recommended for cataract surgery. Has anyone had any experience of this as we would be interested in the outcome? It seems a complicated procedure and we don't want him to have the operation unless there is a good chance of success. He can still get around at the moment but his sight is getting worse and we just want the best for him.


I do not know about dogs but it is wonderful and life changing in humans, if it works the same in dogs it would be worthwhile. Good luck.  (doghouse) 22/8/2020 7:3:9

I am part of a diabetic dog forum and one of the side effects in diabetes is cataracts and sight loss. Many of the members dogs have had the cataract surgery with a very high success rate. It is expensive and the immediate aftercare is complicated and involved but it seems to have a good success rate. Try joining diabetes UK and ask the question. They are very helpful   (glenysgrimes) 22/8/2020 10:9:1

SAD NEWS - JO SPENCER  (CarolS) 19/8/2020 13:13:58

JO SPENCER (JUNE)

It is with sadness that I am sorry to let you know that Jo passed away peacefully on Tuesday 18th August at her care home. Jo had battled with ill health for many years and was a fighter to the end although she had only been poorly for a couple of weeks.

She will be remembered for her long association with Chesvale DTC having been a trainer, Secretary, Treasurer, Chairman and was our current President. Border collies, shelties, boxers and horses were the love and focus of her life competing in agility, obedience, show jumping and boxer racing.

I will confirm details regarding funeral arrangements although attendance will be limited due to Covid.

Carol Spencer


I am sad to read that, I am of that era - my first rosette was at Chesvale.   (anntrodd) 20/8/2020 21:56:41

WIRRAL ALSATIAN TRAINING SOCIETY - Obedience Shows  (dellkos) 19/8/2020 20:40:10

Due to the Pandemic, the football season has been extended to 12/13 June 2021.This means that our venue in May 2021 is not available. Accordingly, we have had to move the dates to July 2021 (one year only)as follows:

Championship Obedience Show 09 July 2021(Friday) (agreed By K.C.)
Open Obedience Show 10 July 2021(Saturday)

Hopefully see you all soon.

Nicki Fildes-Moss (Show Secretary W.A.T.S.)



Sad Announcement  (dawncox76) 10/8/2020 15:14:16

Many of you will have seen this on the FB page, but for those not on FB:-
For those of you who know my Mum - Marcia Mannings-Smith - sadly her husband David, passed away last Tuesday morning. He was 80 and his health had been deteriorating over the last couple of years. He passed away peacefully in hospital following an acute, but repeated illness.
Mum is coping very well.

David was my stepdad, tho didnt come into my life until I was in my 30s - - my own Dad died aged 60, and Mum was lucky enough to go on to find happiness with David - they had 23 years together.


Give my love to your mom on her sad loss.Thinking of you both.

Chris & Tilly  (Just Tilly) 11/8/2020 11:35:5

Thanks Chris, I will. X  (dawncox76) 11/8/2020 14:39:40

So sorry , RIP David , condolences to Marcia & family   (dingdongcharlie) 19/8/2020 19:24:50

Maybe full running order with time slots ?  (ObedienceUK) 17/8/2020 17:47:16

Shirley Budgen's post shared from facebook:

IF it was that we had a full running order with slots chosen by handler at the sign in stage (ie in the first hour), then after the statutory 1st 10 drawn I suggest this idea:

After 1st 10 the draw sheet then has TIME slots NOT number drawn slots so depending on class you could have 10 mins between each time slot going up in length of time depending on class ... handler puts their name or number in time wanted (using their own pen) so has a very obvious time to be at the ring.
Tea Breaks etc could be blocked out by judge at the start.

If no time slot filled in then they are deemed not to have ticked in/signed in to work.

Opinions - be nice 🙂 ?



Crufts Inter-Regional - Wales  (richardk) 15/8/2020 12:26:22

Crufts Inter-Regional Obedience Competition

Congratulations to Gill Walker on being selected as the new Team Manager of the Welsh Team for the Inter-Regional Obedience Competition at Crufts.

Gill has been associated with the Welsh team for many years both organisationally and as a team member so has a comprehensive insight into the workings of the competition.

We wish her well in her new role and are sure that she will make a great addition to the event and enable the Welsh team to continue the successes achieved over the years.

Many thanks to all applicants

Richard Kebble



JERSEY DOG TRAINING ASSOCIATION  (ObedienceUK) 14/8/2020 16:23:8

The committee has made the decision to cancel the November 2020 show. While regrettable, it was the view that there were simply too many uncertainties. The position around travel is not clear. The situation with Covid-19 as the winter approaches is by no means clear, with the likelihood of greater restrictions been implemented. The club house would not be ideal to hold a show even under current restrictions, with the normal aspects such as spectators and lunches which add to the show experience having to be curtailed.

However the good news is we are already planning the shows for June & November 2021


Kind regards
Liz Keeler


Shame but good decision.   (candlewind) 15/8/2020 12:15:11

The end of the Bartonview era  (DaveB) 4/8/2020 22:35:29

Sadly, I have to report that Jean Hogan passed away earlier today following a stroke in the care home she'd recently moved into.
She and her late husband John were very well known in Obedience for many years in the 1970's, 80's and 90's both competing and judging in the South, South East and Eastern Counties.
They were Mr & Mrs Bartonview for many years.
They bred some fabulous B/C's and Shelties n their time, we still,have one of them.
Both will be sadly missed.


Very sad news. What a lovely couple they were.   (dingdongcharlie) 5/8/2020 15:16:12

So sorry to hear this. John and Jean were such a part of the obedience world.
I remember them so well and with such nostalgic memories.
  (JMartineau) 5/8/2020 21:8:24

WATS obedience shows refunds  (bayley) 4/8/2020 20:29:14

Wirral alsatian training society
Reminder to please cash any refund cheques from our cancelled shows. There are still 20 outstanding from end of march.
Kathy (treasurer)



Sheffield GSD obedience show 18th October 2020  (Sheffieldgsd) 27/7/2020 14:10:25

It is with great sadness that the decision has been made to cancel Sheffield show on the 18th October 2020. This decision has not been made lightly, but it is felt that it is best to protect the health of everyone and especially those more vulnerable.
Hopefully things will be better in the new year.
Best Wishes
Anne and the committee



A DOG SOLICITOR NEEDED URGENTLY  (chris P) 17/7/2020 20:54:2

Hello, can anyone recommend in the South East a solicitor who deals with dog bites. Police have been informed, but in short husband got bitten by dog and contracted Sepsis and spent 5 days plus in and out of hospital on drips etc plus 2 x 999 calls. Husband not out of danger re the sepsis. Not funny especially with Covid-19. Please feel free to PM me.
Thanks and hope everyone is all OK and keeping well.
Chris P


There are many good dog bite solitors if you google dog bites no win no fee,
Janet oliver.
coriecollies.  (janetoliver) 19/7/2020 14:57:24

Sandyglow Silver Shadow (Shetland Sheepdog)  (layash) 15/7/2020 11:30:5

Sandyglow Silver Shadow (Pebbles)
06-10-03 - 10-07-20
Sadly that day we all dread came, and we had to say goodbye to our gentle blue boy Pebbles.
Sweet dreams, run free sweetpea.
Lesley and Peter Lubbi


sorry for your loss  (puppies) 15/7/2020 11:49:19

So very sorry to hear your sad news xx  (Loobylou) 15/7/2020 22:35:9

So very sorry to hear your news. Sleep well Pebbles. Hope you are both ok  (Mikadine) 16/7/2020 6:48:40

So sorry to hear your news.Remember the good times.

Chris & Tilly  (Just Tilly) 16/7/2020 7:37:37

So sorry to hear this, thinking of you both. Run free dear Pebbles xx  (Kethinna) 17/7/2020 9:57:25

Oh Lesley and Peter, so sorry to hear that you lost the lovely Pebbles. xxx  (Fineartdogs) 17/7/2020 13:35:37

The Thinking message is for you. Lily  (doghouse) 18/7/2020 8:7:25

So sorry to hear your sad news.   (BarbShort) 18/7/2020 9:54:13

So sorry to hear that you have lost your lovely boy Pebbles whom I am sure will be so much missed. Sending much love and sympathy to you both.xx
  (REMMIE) 18/7/2020 11:33:9

Thinking   (doghouse) 17/7/2020 19:49:21

Thinking of you both. Take care.



Doing the night shift  (Just Tilly) 24/6/2020 2:52:17

Tilly is not very well a the moment and as the weather is not helping I have decided to stay awake during the night and sleep during the day. She is a little fighter so fingers crossed she will be around for a few more months. She is nearly 16. Bless her.
Chris


So sorry Chris, do give her a big hug from Izzy and me xx  (Wizzpop) 6/7/2020 12:3:37

A big hug to you and to Tilly. xx  (dawncox76) 6/7/2020 14:42:20

crufts 2021 obedience champship  (lofty) 4/6/2020 9:40:18

most ticket shows have been cancelled I am trying to find out what the kennel club are doing about cruft's 2021 obedience .I have sent a email to them but nothing back


Early in May I posed a question on facebook:

"IF we have a Crufts in March 2021, and IF we don't have enough dogs to run the Championships, what would you recommend the Crufts Committee to do on the 2 vacant days? (Hypothetically!)"

Suggestions so far are:

1) Run the 2020 ABC final!!!!!

2) Invite back the previous years competitors

3) Have an interregional championship c for Dogs and bitches

4) Bring back Obedience World Cup under new name of international invitation if travelling is allowed 😊

5) Invite all handlers in ticket with rescue dogs

6) Invite all the dogs and bitches that got the reserve tickets

7) Best of all breeds that compete. Eg. Newfoundland down to Yorkies.

8) If the situation does clear up sooner rather than later, it'd be nice to have like a full week of shows or something with tickets every day and everyone camp the week

Plus various others.  (ObedienceUK) 4/6/2020 19:28:40

Invite the 25 top winning ticket dogs of the previous season?  (dingdongcharlie) 5/6/2020 11:17:24

At a glance inviting reserves sounds good.  (doghouse) 6/6/2020 8:37:40

Out of sight stays  (dingdongcharlie) 3/6/2020 9:45:33

What is the situation regarding out of sight stays? Looks like we won't get any shows this year, so will next year's shows not have any out of sight or is it still waiting to be discussed or awaiting KC approval? Sharon


Hi Sharon, I hope you and your Dad are keeping well.
I don't know but think they will be gone by the time we have a show to go to.

The other stay things are up to be discussed and hopefully have some amendments before being sent up to the Activities committee and then going to the Board for approval.
This is just my understanding due to once being a Liaison Rep. Stay well. Lily  (doghouse) 4/6/2020 8:28:31

It would be good to know. My youngster won out of Novice at Culverstone in Feb and I just wondered whether to bother teaching out of sight, because I haven't so far.   (dingdongcharlie) 4/6/2020 10:51:17

LEICESTERSHIRE GSD SHOW  (snooki) 31/5/2020 20:35:13

i would just like to say as the show was moved first due to not being a bank monday then had to be cancalled to coronavirus but it would of been a very nice day as weather been great . i would like to say a thank to the judges and stewards how had agreed to give time to judge and will step in for me next year thats great
jacki



STANHOPE SHOW  (Mollexie) 23/5/2020 11:12:14

The committee of Stanhope Show have taken the decision to cancel the whole event this year due to the ongoing pandemic.
They hope to see you all again next year.

Posted on behalf of Moira Jobling.



Marion Healey   (sorcha) 19/5/2020 22:10:7

After a sudden illness Marion passed away on May 11th. Marion worked started in obedience many years ago. With a goldie Duke, then got a collie. A member of Wilton obedience and latterly Redcar and District Working a dog caljed Fen , Unfortunately due to the current situation. Its only family who can attend her funeral Which is taking place on Friday 22nd slept tight my friend, Beach walks will never be the same 💔



Plymouth DTC Open Show Cancellation  (Blacksheep) 18/5/2020 22:42:7

We have decided to cancel our Open Obedience Show for 3rd & 4th Oct 2020
No entries have been taken. See you all May 8th & 9th 2021. Fingers Crossed.
Rita
PDTC Show Sec



BIRMINGHAM & DISTRICT GSD ASSOCIATION SHOWS   (polomazda) 15/5/2020 12:37:46

It is with great sorrow that following the KC's announcement on Wednesday, myself and the committee, felt we had no alternative than to cancel our shows on 19th & 20th September. This is to safeguard the health and safety of judges, stewards and show helpers, many of those are in the vulnerable age group and like most societies rely on these stalwarts for the running of the shows.
In 38 years (this would have been my 39 year as show secretary) I have never had to cancel a show and in fact being at the end of the season have been able to help other clubs reschedule their events, unfortunately the cruel and unpredictable virus as beaten us all, not even Sandwell can help us out this year.
I have been able to inform all judges for 2020 and 21 and ticket judges for 2023 and the vast majority have been able to move their contracts to the following year. This has been a great relief to me and I am truly grateful for your co-operation.
Sorry if this as spoiled your weeks holiday in the Midlands but stay safe and we should all be able to enjoy it next year.
Best wishes from a very disappointed secretary.
Kathy Hood



Schedules page - removing Shows  (ObedienceUK) 5/4/2020 8:52:44

I normally remove Shows (and the information) for a Show the day after the show, but if I did that I would also remove the refund instructions.

So, I'm going to leave all April shows on the schedules page until the beginning of May then delete all of them. Then May shows leave until beginning of June etc.

If Show secretaries want me to update the instructions please let me know.


If Show Secretaries believe all refunds have been actioned, then let me know and I'll add a note to that effect.  (ObedienceUK) 5/4/2020 9:13:17

I've changed my mind on this. Instead I'm going to move all cancelled shows that would have already occurred onto a new SCHEDULE ARCHIVE page - you can find this under the Miscellaneous (Misc) menu item on this website.   (ObedienceUK) 16/4/2020 12:29:43

OK, I've changed my mind again.

I've moved ALL Cancelled Shows to the Schedule Archive page (in Misc menu). This leaves all the shows that are 'Potentially' still running still on the Schedules page.

Please start filling in your shows for 2021 now.  (ObedienceUK) 13/5/2020 19:50:55

CHESVALE DTC - Show cancellation   (CarolS) 13/5/2020 19:1:11

CHESVALE DTC
Show cancellation.
We have decided to cancel our obedience show on Sunday 30th August.
No entries have been taken. See you in 2021. Stay safe at home x to can



Cancelled: BURNBANK CHAMPIONSHIP SHOW 10 10 20  (ObedienceUK) 13/5/2020 17:1:25

Posted on behalf of Sandra Gordon:

It is with great sadness we will be cancelling our show this year as we have to make Health and safety our 1st priority for all our judges members and competitors look for to seeing you next year .Please stay safe



Elm Park cancelled  (iappleton) 13/5/2020 16:58:32

Unfortunately we have had to cancel Elm Park's show this year due to the KC's latest announcement. It really is a shame as it was Thurrock's last year. Hopefully next year will be back with Elm Park running both days.

Keep safe everyone.

Julie



Thurrock & Elm Park cancelled  (Kath) 13/5/2020 16:26:8

Its with a very heavy heart I have to announce that after the latest KC announcement, Thurrock is cancelled 😰 Elm Park also, but Julie Appleton will add a few words herself. Its such a shame its come to this, as it was to be our last show. Id like to thank again all the judges whod agreed to judge this year (all notified already) and everyone whos judged for us in the past. Our very first Open Show was way back in 1983, so its been a long time. Tough to end like this, but better for us all to stay safe. Take care everyone, and hope to see you around the shows next year x


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